dagger_ix1 ([info]dagger_ix1) wrote in [info]sweet_pool,

Full-comp'd!!

Hey guys. I finished full comp'ing sweet pool just now, so here's a post in case any of you guys want to ask spoilery questions. Not to hype it up unnecessarily, but on a purely personal level, this is def. my favorite Chiral game so far. My suspicion is that it's going to be a love or hate it thing, though.



There are six main endings, each with a different ED theme. This is the order I played them in (I'm labeling them with the song names for now, but feel free to come up with more interesting ways of identifying them, haha.) While the credits roll, the screen displays either the symbol for instinct or the symbol for reason, so I've also labeled them accordingly.

"the red road" [instinct] - This is what you get if you mostly pick instinct. Explaining it in detail would require going into all of the story's (startlingly well explicated!!) mythology etc., so for now, suffice it to say that Youji chooses to fulfill his destiny as something... other than human. He and Tetsuo procreate--after the last time they have sex, their flesh starts to literally melt together. They die as they fuse, and their bodies disappear, but in their place appears a "newborn" child who looks rather like Youji, except with red eyes, and who is supposed to serve as a new messiah of sorts for the flesh lump parasite-monsters that have been pestering people throughout the game. Kitani finds the child and decides to watch over it for now, and kill it with his own hands later, if that proves necessary.

"diving deep" [reason] - Not sure on the exact requirements, but one way to get this is by picking a wishy-washy mix of instinct and reason. For instance, I got it by picking mostly instinct throughout the game, and then reason in the final series of choices. In this one, Youji wavers between whether he wants to remain human or embrace being a monster. It generally follows the same arc as the aforementioned ending, but at the very end, he's unable to fully accept Tetsuo. Kitani kills both of them.

"The Hunger" [reason] - Hinges on a single choice. There's a scene where Makoto goes full-blown yandere and holds a box-cutter to Youji's neck, demanding that Youji choose either him (by nodding) or Tetsuo (by staying silent). Pick instinct, and Youji calls out to Tetsuo in his head, and the game proceeds. Pick reason, and Youji tries to appease Makoto by nodding, which ends up having the opposite effect. Makoto rapes him and eats him. All of him. But, weeks after cannibalizing Youji, Makoto is still plagued by an insatiable hunger that drives him to begin eating away at his own arm. In the final scene, he toys with Youji's bones and starts crying.

"Miracles may (Violin Version)" [reason] - The ending you get if you consistently pick reason (the above Makoto-related choice is the only one where you have to pick instinct). Youji wants to keep living with Tetsuo as a human being. Kitani shoots both of them on the school roof, and they fall off the roof into the pool below. Youji sacrifices his human existence to save Tetsuo's life (this does make sense in the context of the backstory). In the last scene, a few years later, they're living together, but Youji doesn't seem to leave the house, and his dialogue is all done with dashes instead of quotation marks. I think it's sort of left up to your imagination what exactly has happened to him, but they do make it clear that he shouldn't have lingered on like this, and he's going to vanish/die for good soon.

"VLG" [instinct] - Pick instinct for the Zenya choices (three or four in total) that come up once in a while.... you probably also have to pick instinct in the very first choice, before the OP, but that's just a guess. Zenya kidnaps Youji and holds him prisoner, and uses him as a sex slave while simultaneously videotaping him and and making him watch himself on the creepy TV that shows up in the official site's Unknown section (yeah, it's *that* room). It's implied that this will continue indefinitely, unless Youji manages to starve himself to death.

"Miracles may" [instinct & reason] - Presumably the true (?) ending. Once you complete the other endings, follow the same path used to get the violin ver. ending, and a final choice appears after Tetsuo and Youji fall into the pool. Pick reason, and Youji still decides to sacrifice himself to save Tetsuo, but he can't silence his longing to keep on living with Tetsuo as a human being, either. He desperately wants to live. Afterward--this is the only part of the whole game from Tetsuo's POV, I think--Tetsuo wakes up in the hospital and finds out that he's been comatose for several months. He doesn't remember what happened on the day he fell in the pool, and he doesn't remember Youji.

Five years later, Tetsuo is commuting back from college when something prompts him to get off at the train station one stop away from his--which is the station Youji always used to get off at. For a second, standing on the platform, he starts to remember his school days, and he's on the verge of remembering Youji... but the moment passes, leaving behind only a vague pain, and he gets back on the train and goes on with his life.

After the credits, the final CG appears: a shot of Youji in his student uniform, his old school bag on his shoulder, standing on the opposite side of the now-empty train platform. No text. I guess you could see it as a challenge to the player to decide what it means; I think it's simply a representation of what Tetsuo has lost and left behind.

The red road ending is probably my favorite. LOVED it. I'm not gonna lie, I had some waterworks going during that one and the final ending, among others. Oh, and in case you're wondering why Kitani keeps insisting on shooting Tetsuo and Youji, it's because (in everything aside from the Zenya and Makoto bad ends), the climax involves both Zenya and Kunihito dying. Zenya kills Kunihito, and Tetsuo gets provoked into killing Zenya, but Kitani sees the carnage without knowing what happened. On a side note, Kitani/Zenya is strongly implied in the game, but never quite stated outright.

One interesting note: almost none of the few CGs that got revealed very early on (including some that were used in the first promo video) appear in the actual game. Maybe they were concept art?
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[info]annachuu

December 20 2008, 06:22:31 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  December 20 2008, 06:24:00 UTC

I-I couldn't resist and read them all

;A; I really want the game now.

AND HOW DID YOU FINISH THE GAME SO QUICKLY, WHAAAAA *bows down to you*

EDIT: I KNEW MAKOTO WAS YANDERE BUT NOT THAT SCARY ;A; *headdesk*

[info]mc0820

December 20 2008, 06:25:09 UTC 3 years ago

Sorry, I haven't finished reading the whole thing yet, I knew that Makoto's a yandere. Congratulations on completing the game and thank you for writing this review!

Btw, does this mean the game doesn't have a set good ending for each of the characters like the other nitrochiral games? Makoto's ending is probably going is probably going to have me freaked out or in tears by the end.

[info]dagger_ix1

December 20 2008, 06:30:22 UTC 3 years ago

Yeah, no character-specific good endings (it's probably debatable whether any of the endings qualify as "good," for that matter). If it makes you feel any better, Makoto does get redeemed--and it's a really lovely scene--during the main storyline.

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[info]x252_jia

December 20 2008, 06:34:03 UTC 3 years ago

FUSION!
So I did read right about that one and amnesia end

Really like what I read
Thanks for taking the type to type all that up

And btw how long did it take you (so many have already finished it!)

[info]dagger_ix1

December 20 2008, 06:38:22 UTC 3 years ago

I guess a day and a half? But I'm a slow reader in Japanese orz.

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[info]ex_nightray

December 20 2008, 06:35:06 UTC 3 years ago

Oh my god, wow... This game is... very dark. Sorry for stating the obvious, but the gore went a little over my expectations. This doesn't make me any more excited to play the game.

[info]astrokittie

December 20 2008, 06:41:56 UTC 3 years ago

Oh Nitro. With each game you get subsequently more fucked up and more awesome.

Thanks so much for posting this so soon!

[info]varon_lvr89

December 20 2008, 08:28:59 UTC 3 years ago

Holy hell! my guess on the game being dark and scary was dark, but this is even more darker than I had imagened! *___* I'm sooo interested in it more and I wanna buy it as a holiday present for myself! ><
so lucky of you to have it already and play it!
I had a feeling Makato would go crazy. but not THAT crazy! x__x
Good job Nitro + Chiral!

[info]aquarian_days

December 20 2008, 09:34:38 UTC 3 years ago

Woah. Man, you are a credit to this fandom. I figured it would be weeks before we'd get solid info on the content of the game. Thanks so much for sharing!

So the only character that Youji actually has a relationship with, besides Bad Endings involving Zenya and Makoto, is Tetsuo? Forgive me, I guess I'm having a hard time picturing this, but how does that make it a game, then? It sounds like it's pretty much the same path no matter what up until the end? Besides the ending, how do your various choices affect what you see/do during the course of the game?

[info]dagger_ix1

December 20 2008, 09:55:32 UTC 3 years ago

Yeah, it's a one-path game. As a brand, Nitroplus has historically put out a rather high proportion of these (frex, Saya no Uta--which clearly had an influence on Sweet Pool--Hana Chirasu, Zoku Satsuriku no Jango, Chaos;Head... and then there's Kikokugai, which is a single story with no choices whatsoever!).

Maybe it would be easier to focus on the novel aspect when thinking about it? The PC version of Chaos;Head, for instance, is described as a "delusional science novel," but the 360 port (which will add branching character routes) is described as "delusional science ADV," with ADV meaning Adventure, which I guess is the term sometimes used to distinguish visual novels with multiple routes.

But to answer your question, there are some scenes and CGs that only appear if you make a certain choice.

[info]may_billy

December 20 2008, 10:49:23 UTC 3 years ago

...you are awesome.*bows down to you*

Box-cutter?I havent seen that weapon ever since Shuffle,and gosh,I WANT THE GAME.TAT

[info]narcomanic

December 20 2008, 12:05:44 UTC 3 years ago

Whoa. o____o This is probably the most guro game Nitro+ has released up to date. Just... whoa.

And again, my favourite characters either die or end up crazy/miserable. u___u But then again, I don't think any of the characters in the game get a very happy ending...

Well, anyway. Thank you so much for the info! I'll never get to play the game myself, so I'll have to indulge myself in spoilers like this. XD

[info]aphelion_orion

December 20 2008, 13:04:38 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  December 20 2008, 13:05:12 UTC

Wow, that's very sad. I don't think I can bear to play this...

[info]amileoneth

December 20 2008, 14:47:22 UTC 3 years ago

omf i cant resist anymore...! goddammit!
this is the most gore game every describe!! i can only imagine the CGs..
thanks for the info..! but oh lord..ill try to byt this game next year!

[info]dagger_ix1

December 20 2008, 15:27:31 UTC 3 years ago

The CGs are actually pretty restrained IMO... Or maybe I'm just desensitized, haha.

[info]firestorm717

December 21 2008, 06:52:42 UTC 3 years ago

Ahahahaha, you know what's funniest about this entire thing? [info]wakannai and I guessed the first ending almost exactly when we were talking about the game and why it's called Sweet Pool XD I think they could've renamed it Saya no Uta: Yaoi Version, but you know.

Still, eww, cannibalism? Yeah, maybe not...if I can get over the vore factor, I think I'll play it though.

Thanks for the quick summary!

[info]shinobu_k

December 22 2008, 03:45:41 UTC 3 years ago

Thanks for the info!
It's really interesting but a bit (a LOT) strange I have to say... It reminds me of Silent Hill 3 and It's funny because I loved that game even If I couldn't beat it.
When I saw the CG's yesterday I was all shocked and so but If you read the plot anything began to make more sense and I think I love the game for that risky story because that's not going to be the favorite of everyone who loved Lamento and/or Togainu.

I don't like the only-one-mate thing. Maybe there's more flesh than sex and so XDDD But it's at least an interesting game to look forward.

[info]sukiyakiya

December 22 2008, 12:54:36 UTC 3 years ago

Excuse me, is there a good ending for Makoto? if not i may cry in my room now......

[info]dagger_ix1

December 22 2008, 13:43:18 UTC 3 years ago

No. Although technically the Tetsuo endings turn out pretty well for Makoto, since he re-friends Youji and makes it out alive, and gets to go back to a normal life.

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[info]amileoneth

December 23 2008, 04:40:53 UTC 3 years ago

ok ummm
i know i post here like...2 times? i guess...
when i download the CG, i look at them like...1000000 times?? tehe!
and i saw the Cg if zenya kipping youji as a sex slave..
errr my question is...WHAT HAPPEN IN YOUJIS ASS? IS THAT "those who exist within"???????

you rock dude!!!

[info]dagger_ix1

December 23 2008, 05:50:25 UTC 3 years ago

Yeah, that's pretty much them.

[info]gokumew2

December 24 2008, 03:33:23 UTC 3 years ago

I just cleared the Tetsuo route. GUH! I nearly cried at the end! What with Tetsuo repeating Youji's "is there such thing as eternity" question. .T_______________________T

So good!!! And these two are SO HAWT. I demand a drama CD, NOW!!!! Hatano~~~~ Kawahara~~~~ <333333333

Btw, did you get a tokuten with your game? If it's not the Amazon one, I wonder if you could share it? =.3 I'm assuming digital disc tokuten too, of course. I'd love to hear the other dramas.

[info]dagger_ix1

December 24 2008, 04:32:19 UTC 3 years ago

My tokuten was a mousepad, actually. ^^;;

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[info]pikacheeka

December 24 2008, 06:50:22 UTC 3 years ago

I think my brain just exploded. Makoto uses a box cutter. He's upgraded from Keisuke's screwdriver.

It sounds awesome. I really wish I knew more and could play it RIGHT NOW. The religious aspect of it sounds almost like parts of Angel Sanctuary. But that aside, it just looks awesome. I'm such a sucker for no-happy-endings.

Thank you SO much for posting this. I don't know if/when I'll ever get around to buying it, so this will have to do for now. (and thanks for the CGs, am downloading now).

[info]flowermemory

December 25 2008, 00:53:10 UTC 3 years ago

Did you check out the extra cd Firestorm posted at Mirainoyume? One of the features is a AU drama CD of what would it have been like if they were normal students Y_Y

[info]kurokokoro

December 26 2008, 00:44:52 UTC 3 years ago

Well unfortunately my Japanese isn't great, and I have to rely on most of the spoken parts to know what's going on. So this thread really helped me understand more. It would be awesome if there was a more in-depth plot summary (or even a partial translation) somewhere. I'm really intrigued by everything so far.
Thanks for the endings walkthrough!

[info]prince_k

December 31 2008, 04:09:14 UTC 3 years ago

I finished the game with all the endings and CGs today!!

I really like the game!!
It would have been nice to have an ending where Youji became human again though...

My favorite endings are The Red Road and Miracles May(both ver.).

From the developer perspective I think those 3 are intended to be the "best" endings as the credits are aligned in the center.

The credits for the "bad" endings (VLG, The Hunger, Diving Deep) are all wonky...

[info]waterbaby12us

April 21 2009, 14:36:54 UTC 3 years ago

Gah, the game really sound interesting (I finally get at least some part of it now), though .... so much gore >_________< *is too scared to play* I think it will take few days before I have the guts to play it XD Thanks so much for all the information you provided!

[info]chibiyaoichan

June 1 2009, 00:07:42 UTC 3 years ago

TT__TT *sobbing the hearts out*

[info]sharonsakura

February 7 2010, 16:33:49 UTC 2 years ago

hello

can anyone share the song I'm in Blue by Pale Green?

[info]elizahime

April 12 2010, 09:03:16 UTC 2 years ago

Wow.. Now I really want to play the game! If it was available in english and selling in my country, I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

After reading the endings summaries, the game sure is deep. I mean, really deep. Nitro Chiral is so good at making yaoi games different than others..

Thank you for sharing this :)

[info]natsu_ne

October 25 2011, 22:14:34 UTC 7 months ago

Just now I fully finish game thanks to your guidance. It was very helpful so really thank you very much ^___^ Game rocks, sure I will never forget it...
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